Secret Lives — Natalie
Photo interview by Roy Tersley from Janus 157 / Februs 37 with Natalie, also sometimes known as Andrea Spinks, Nadia or Pixie.
Natalie, can you tell me a
little about yourself?
I am 21 years old, just about
to finish my degree, at South East London University. The past three years have
gone past very quickly and I have over that time changed considerably. My first
week at University I spent in my bedroom as I was scared and too shy to venture
out. Also, I didn’t really like the look of the people around me, so I thought
I would stay in my bedroom. Since then I have met a tremendously large number
of people, done a lot of new things and changed a lot.
Are you in a relationship at
the moment?
No. I started university in a
four year relationship that lasted midway into my second year. It’s over now. I
have had a boyfriend since and had experiences with guys and girls since I have
been at university but I currently don’t have a girlfriend or boyfriend.
As you know, the purpose of
this interview is to hear about your spanking experiences. Can you tell me when
you were first spanked?
I was spanked as a child, into
my early teens. If I was naughty it was usually my mother who administered the
punishment. She used her hand or a wooden spoon that used to be kept in the
kitchen. She used to threaten me with the spoon sometimes, twirling it around
and saying that it was revving up when my sister and I were playing up. My
father used to spank us both with a slipper and occasionally my mum would also
use a bamboo cane from the garden. These were treated as a normal part of life.
The last time I was spanked at home I was probably 13 or 14 years old. The next
time I was spanked was when I visited a club in London called Submission.
How old were you then?
I am not sure. I must have been 18 or 19.
What is this club like?
It’s a fetish club. I went
there with a guy I met on holiday. I met two guys on holiday in Ibiza and we
kept in touch when we got home. I went out with these two guys and one of their
girlfriends and went to Submission. It was one of the first places I went to
where I started to see a different side of London and people.
You obviously knew where you
were going and what sort of club it was. Did you have to buy any clothes?
I did make an effort. They say
you can’t get in unless you do make an effort though there were a few guys
wearing just black shirts and trousers which was a bit of a shame. I was
wearing a long rubberised skirt that was ankle length — a kind of 50’s style.
It was straight with a zip going all the way one side. It was quite an
old-fashioned and conservative design but in a very raunchy fabric. I had just
feathers on and gold cord tied around my top half. I also wore a black wig that
was straight out of Pulp Fiction.
Did you go along knowing what
to expect?
I really went along out of
curiosity. The girl with us was very much into the fetish scene and was very
keen to take me there. My eyes were well and truly opened. There was nothing
there that was shocking and I wasn’t shocked, although there were things going
on that I hadn’t seen before. Overall, it was all very new and exciting. I
suppose a lot of what was going on would be considered inappropriate in most
circles but was fine and considered the norm inside the club. I think this is
what I really liked about it.
What happened during your visit
to the club?
Well, the guy I was with was getting on my nerves. He tried to come on to me although I had made it very clear that I wasn’t interested. I sat down on the stage and the girl with us, Angela, who was extremely beautiful, was dancing behind me. She saw me sitting on my own and came over and knelt down beside me asking what was wrong. I said that I had had enough of men and the guy I was with was really starting to bother me. She said, ‘Well, why don’t you try being with a woman then.’ She then stood up in front of me and we kissed. The two guys we were with saw this happening and got into a bit of a mood. I explained to my guy what the situation was and he said, ‘Why don’t you try a few more new things tonight?’ He then just put me across his knee and spanked me. It wasn’t very hard but I certainly felt it. It was hard enough to worry me a little bit. It was hard enough to get me excited.
Did he lift your skirt up?
No. I think he was trying to be
polite.
So, that was your first adult
spanking. How did you feel about that? What were your feelings?
I generally liked the night
very much. I haven’t seen the guy since but I have bumped into the girl at an
Erotica exhibition. It was such an exciting night. I had never been to anywhere
like that before. I liked the fact that anything can happen and that no one
would look on you disparagingly and you could feel totally relaxed in asking a
total stranger to do something you wanted them to do or for them to do
something to you and any declining of an offer from either side wasn’t a
rejection but just not what that person was into. It was really a friendly and
re-assuring environment.
Did you actively pursue the
idea of spanking?
No. I really didn’t know how to
approach anything like that. A lot of the people at Submission knew exactly
what they were into and what they were about. But I felt a bit lost. I didn’t
want to get myself into something that I wouldn’t like and I didn’t keep in
touch with the people I went with.
When was the next time you were
spanked?
I got an offer of a modelling job. I didn’t know exactly what it was when I first agreed but it turned out to be a photo shoot for a spanking magazine called Janus. I turned up for the shoot with another girl and everybody I met that day were really interesting people.
Did you know what to expect?
Yes, I did. The Agency had
shown me a copy of the magazine, both Janus and Februs actually.
Tell me about this shoot.
I met the other girl at this
great house where the shoot was to take place. She was a lovely girl but
probably more apprehensive than me. There was a woman there called Hilary who
allayed any fears that we had. It was, in fact, her who spanked the both of us
in the photo shoot.
Did you find it exciting that
you were portraying being spanked by a woman?
I didn’t find it a turn on or
anything. I felt that I needed to act professionally for the photo shoot and as
it was a new situation I wanted to deal with the situation and then figure out
whether I liked it or not.
Did you like it?
Well, yes, I did actually. I did feel decidedly mischievous. There was a story line and we each had a character to play and we all got into it. It was exciting and in fact took away any feelings of embarrassment we may have felt because it wasn’t us doing this, it was the characters.
What were the characters you
were playing?
We were two naughty girls who
had been sent to see Hilary because she had a reputation of being a strict
disciplinarian and if there were any girls playing up she was the woman to sort
them out.
What were you wearing?
I was wearing a short, grey
skirt, a pair of trainers and a green shirt with a black tie. The other girl
looked very cute, very young, I think her name was Tara. I haven’t seen her
since. I don’t really know if she was into it or not. Although she was more
nervous than I, she certainly seemed to enjoy the shoot as much, who knows,
maybe she is being spanked right now. I also remember that I had to wear a pair
of knickers provided by the person organising the shoot because the ones I had
with me were ‘not appropriate’ because they didn’t cover enough of my bottom.
At the time I thought this was ridiculous as, I thought, if a bottom was to be
spanked then the least protection the better — for the giver that is.
How was the day?
It was good. I very much
enjoyed it. As I mentioned earlier, we all entered into the spirit of it. In
fact, I felt that I had been in a kind of time warp. I had gone into this
old-fashioned house with people I hadn’t met before who all took on new roles and
identities. And then we came out of the house and everything was back to
normal. I felt as though I would have liked to explore the subject a bit
further but I really didn’t know how to. I didn’t know where to go, who to talk
to or what avenues to take.
So you were interested but
didn’t know how to pursue this newly found interest in spanking.
Yes, that’s right. There are lots of things I want to explore. People ask me what I am into and I can honestly say that I don’t really know. Most of the time when I have tried something new I have really enjoyed it.
I won’t dwell on the photo shoot itself as I am sure the readers can judge for themselves its success. It appeared in Janus 131 [actually Janus 132 — Disciplinary Measures]. What happened next?
Well, a few months passed and
then I got another phone call from Janus saying they liked the
pictures and asking if I would do another shoot. I must admit I felt rather
flattered that they liked the pictures and I was pleased, and was really
looking forward to doing it again.
What did this shoot involve?
Well, firstly, it was shot in
Brighton. I was a cleaner who had been caught skiving and therefore needed to
be disciplined. This time it was a guy dishing out the punishment.
Did you feel any differently
that it was a guy rather than a girl dishing it out?
I think I probably enjoyed it
more. The guy was more firm, there was meaning in the spanking being issued. I
certainly felt the spanking I was given. I ended up with a red bottom and hand
marks.
Has this photo shoot been
published yet?
Yes, it has. I think it was in edition 134. [Actually Janus 133 — Everyone Wants to Smack My Bottom]
This brings us to today. A big
day for you. Appearing in your first spanking video [New Uniform
Discipline 1].
Yes. I met the guy who was
going to spank me, which was a strange experience. Knowing that you are staring
at your executioner. I suppose it wasn’t too bad. Although I didn’t fancy him —
he was younger than I had imagined. We went to the location and I was presented
with a schoolgirl uniform to put on. Everybody, including myself, was surprised
at how young I looked in it. Before we started the video they got out the
paddles and canes and things. I slapped them against my hand and thigh to see
how much they would hurt. I made the choice of the ones I thought would hurt me
the least. These were a black paddle and a black whip-type-thing, with lots of
tails on the end of it.
You had a script or a story
line?
We had a vague story line to
follow. This was that I was to play the part of a mischievous, naughty
schoolgirl who had been skiving off from school producing a doctor’s note
saying that I was unwell.
Did you get into the part the
same way as you did in the photo shoot?
Absolutely. Immediately I put
the uniform on I felt immersed in the role and immediately imagined and felt
part of the whole scenario. Also, the guy who was going to punish me was
wearing an officious looking white coat and I had to refer to him as Doctor
Stimpson. It would have been quite hard not to get into role.
Then the action started?
I was put across his knee and found myself being told off for being naughty. He told me that my mother had contacted him and that she felt there was a problem and that I needed firm discipline.
How were you feeling at this
time?
I was scared. I was wriggling
around and giggling. I don’t know why, it was probably nerves. The spanking
started. He lifted up my gymslip and started spanking over my knickers. I felt
a mixture of emotions — excitement, nervousness and pain. I was trying to
wriggle off his lap but also wasn’t that upset by the fact that I couldn’t. He
was holding me very firmly across his lap. It was a really hard spanking. I
can’t remember being spanked that hard by my mother, I am sure she wouldn’t
have done. After he had been spanking me for some time he pulled my knickers
down to my knees. At this time I thought that this was humiliating, but also
quite exciting and increasingly more sexual as obviously my clothes were
starting to come off. At the same time I was also worried as I knew it was
going to hurt more — which it did. I remember that I kept trying to look around
to see what was going on and to see what damage was being done. But he kept
holding me down so my efforts were in vain. I did manage a glance at my bottom
and noticed it was very red and coming out in blotches, which was quite
worrying. Every time I tried to look around he just pushed me back down. I
remember feeling that whatever I tried to do he was much stronger than me and I
couldn’t do what I wanted to do. This was an unusual experience for me — a
total abdication of power. It was completely voluntary in one way but not in
another. I wasn’t there under duress, but I was trying to get away from the
pain and the spanking but I couldn’t.
After a time this part of your
punishment stopped?
Yes. At this time I felt relief
until I noticed him picking up the black paddle. He then told me to stand up,
take off my clothes and stand in front of him. He was telling me to do
something that was unusual, embarrassing and humiliating, but there was still
that underlying excitement and apprehension there. Being in character sort of
added to that feeling. Being in this role-play meant that I wanted to stay
there and see it out so I took all my clothes off. At no time did I feel
uncomfortable with the situation. He then told to me to go across his knee
again and he then spanked me with the black, leather, oval-shaped paddle. I
don’t know how many strokes he gave me but he must have paddled me non-stop for
about nine or ten minutes. He was doing it on alternate cheeks with me trying
to move out of the way. He kept telling me to keep still or it would hurt more
but I really couldn’t keep still. I instinctively had to try to avoid this
nasty black paddle hurting my bottom any more. It was a reflex reaction, it was
hurting and I was trying to get away. He stopped suddenly and then reverted to
using his hand again. Then after some more hand spanking he started to use the
whip. I found this lighter. It didn’t sting so much and in fact I found myself
starting to enjoy it. He noticed that lot of marks and blotches were coming up
so he got out some cream and started to rub this into my bottom. This was
physically very soothing and very erotic. I felt it was almost worth the
spanking to experience the sensation of the lotion being rubbed in. He did this
for a while and then to my horror he started spanking me again. He then rubbed
in more lotion and told me off again for being a naughty girl and he hoped he
had cured me of my mischievous ways. I felt a feeling of relief that it was
over, I had taken my punishment and I had seen it through to the end.
How do you feel now?
Sore, very sore. One side of my
bottom is a lot more bruised but I am hoping it will go down quickly as I have
a modelling job tomorrow. I also have a sense of achievement and I now have an
ongoing interest in spanking. I think I would like to do another video; but
only with the same people, whom I now trust. I also think I would be far more
likely to try it in my private life. I like the ‘naughty feeling’ and being
corrected and disciplined. I think I will be very naughty in future and see
what happens. In fact, I spoke to a male friend earlier on today. I told him I
was going down to Brighton for a spanking. He replied that I didn’t have to go
all the way there for that… So, I shall see where that leads and find out if he
feels comfortable with the situation.
What about this year. Any
aspirations regarding spanking?
I know a couple of girls who I
would love to take to a party or a shoot or something and introduce them to the
concept of spanking. I feel I am still in the exploratory phase but feel more
comfortable moving forward.
Thank you, Natalie, for the time to express your feelings and relate your experiences to date. I look forward to viewing the video.
The shot where she holds out Sirs cane is a rather good one!
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